tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post3443554950647591743..comments2024-01-02T06:57:26.352-05:00Comments on Life and Love in the Petri Dish: Details on our embryos (why we aren't worried about triplets)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-2496312420365284442015-08-27T10:58:26.207-04:002015-08-27T10:58:26.207-04:00oh! that's awesome! thank you for sharing!oh! that's awesome! thank you for sharing!Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-62314219201713270222015-08-27T10:58:02.814-04:002015-08-27T10:58:02.814-04:00this is just an FET, not a fresh cycle, but I'...this is just an FET, not a fresh cycle, but I've done a bunch to prepare. See my june 30th post: "getting our ducks in a row...."<br /><br />for a fresh cycle, i did a bunch of stuff as well...see my april 22, 2010 post "colorado cocktail."<br /><br />wishing you all of the best with your next cycle!Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-51098915065975776042015-08-26T19:02:34.859-04:002015-08-26T19:02:34.859-04:00Just wondering what you did to prepare? I have one...Just wondering what you did to prepare? I have one son after 6 years of ttc and I've had 6 losses, the last two from FETs remaining embryos from my sons cycle (and a few failed adoptions ;( <br />We will be starting IVF again in January with PGD. I have never done PGD before but since my losses are poor egg quality we are going this route. I am so afraid I won't have any normals. My last cyle only 1 out of 27 eggs made it to baby. My doctor recommend COq10 and ovasitol which I have started already. Just wondering if you did anything special!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-13881033840424032922015-08-26T18:41:15.476-04:002015-08-26T18:41:15.476-04:00I have a Day 6 4bb 2 year old napping away!! He w...I have a Day 6 4bb 2 year old napping away!! He was the only embryo that survived out of 21 eggs retrieved at RMA NJ. momtohowmanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14628691454963743157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-54141624420979347372015-08-26T15:41:28.652-04:002015-08-26T15:41:28.652-04:00Jay, you have me stumped. I don't even know wh...Jay, you have me stumped. I don't even know what embryoscopy data *is* - thought it was for early stage miscarriage, and I've never heard of anyone doing it anyway... enlighten me! Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-88905264404476678402015-08-26T14:52:35.042-04:002015-08-26T14:52:35.042-04:00Yeah,especially given the possible (mitochondrial?...Yeah,especially given the possible (mitochondrial?) issues, triplets ARE unlikely here. Out of curiosity, do you have embryoscopy data on these? Does that give a better picture than embryonic morphological grading, which is a rather shitty predictor? Nobody should know that better than me: I made 3 beautiful 4 AA blasts and 1 3AA blast by day 5, but none of them implanted in the surrogate----they probably would have implanted in me, only to end in grief later. Gauri came from a 4 AA blast too, and I have to say, she was textbook perfect looking, but both beautiful blasts and scraggly looking blasts can make equally adorable babies. I do not know whether that reassures you or makes it worse, but I am so glad this ball is rolling....excited for you!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15553205805046479504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-55441388313460705362015-08-26T14:11:04.396-04:002015-08-26T14:11:04.396-04:00thanks for your detailed response! super helpful! ...thanks for your detailed response! super helpful! I figure our chance of any pregnancy is so low, and this is our last shot, that we'll throw in the no result with the others and see what happens. if we are lucky enough to be pregnant, we will do Marterniti-21 test, etc., so we'll get a good read on what's going on in there. wouldn't want to pass on any embryo that could possibly be a take home healthy baby.Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-80979046330093425012015-08-26T14:04:46.613-04:002015-08-26T14:04:46.613-04:003BA day 6 CCS normal = currently gestating 14w
4AB...3BA day 6 CCS normal = currently gestating 14w<br />4AB day 6 CCS normal = RLB<br /><br />so there ya go, Mo, <br />2 CCRM CCS normal frozen on day 6, one RLB, one on the way (as a donated embryo... not in me!!)<br />both, btw, created when I was a month shy of 40<br /><br />I have had extensive, wonderful talks with FLC embryologists (John, Jeff)<br />as well as CCRM's genetic dept. about the details of these "outliers"<br />'does day 6 matter? how about "lower" grades like BB's and how about 2/3's? what about how many times the embryo got thawed and biopsied?'<br /><br />you know, trying to gleen the "real scoop" from them.<br /><br />last conversation summed it up good...<br />CCRM/FLC does *not* freeze embryos that they don't feel confident will fall into their "65%" ongoing pregnancy/live birth stat for CCS normals.<br />if they got frozen, they have that potential, no matter their grade, the day, biopsies, etc.<br /><br />now, they absolutely clarified that when choosing which embryo(s) to transfer, there is a triage they go by- obviously normals before no-results, day 5 over day 6, A's over B's, 5's over 3's or 4's, etc... the less they have been manipulated (freeze/thaw cycles, biopsies) dictate which ones are preferred for FET...<br />but that does not mean that they do not fully believe that there is potential in embryos that have been thru multiple freeze/thaw, more than one biopsy in attempt to re-screen a no-result, 2/3s, day 6's less than stellar grades, etc... or they simply would not freeze them.<br /><br />now, we all know the caveats- age of eggs, age of sperm, medical history (like cancer treatment, etc), condition of womb, etc... normals don't always work by any means, but if FLC freezes them, they have what it takes as far as any of the embryologists know at the time or can know or will ever know about each specific case.<br /><br />so, that's what I know about that mo.<br /><br />I have one thought... <br />personally we would not transfer any of our no-results. didn't want the unknown risks. I am curious as to your thoughts on transferring a no-result with your euploid embryos... do you have any concerns about the possibility of that embryo complicating/harning a multiple pregnancy, or T21, T18, T13, etc.? please don't take any judgement from me, I am just wondering what your thoughts are. we had a manic history of loss, so I was very risk-averse when it came to transferring anything but CCS normals. our no-results are still frozen.<br /><br />did FLC or CCRM discuss any stats of facts about no-result transfers there?<br /><br />will be keeping you and will constantly in my thoughts... all my best to you for your FET woohooooooo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-70092684862816506122015-08-26T13:04:37.630-04:002015-08-26T13:04:37.630-04:00I love all the science-y talk :)
no idea about ou...I love all the science-y talk :)<br /><br />no idea about ours but we had an 8-cell and a 9-cell on day 3 (that's all we were told)<br /><br />Wishing you all the best.Marcia Francoishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13516774065137063145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-82454311791566230242015-08-26T12:10:44.205-04:002015-08-26T12:10:44.205-04:00awesome! what day blast was it, do you know?awesome! what day blast was it, do you know?Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-991570946459251992015-08-26T12:10:12.926-04:002015-08-26T12:10:12.926-04:00yes, I'm familiar with the japanese literature...yes, I'm familiar with the japanese literature, and you're right, 23% is SO much better than 0%!Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-73488235583423745302015-08-26T12:09:15.237-04:002015-08-26T12:09:15.237-04:00cool! good to know! thank you for sharing!cool! good to know! thank you for sharing!Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-63975023079843464322015-08-26T12:08:42.834-04:002015-08-26T12:08:42.834-04:00sonja, maybe i shouldn't be so sure there'...sonja, maybe i shouldn't be so sure there's no worry about multiples! given our dismal history and the fact that none of my embryos made it to blast on day 5, i'm not so worried. ok, after reading this...a little worried...but not too worried ; )Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-10814432144346904452015-08-26T12:04:19.727-04:002015-08-26T12:04:19.727-04:00thanks, lindsay, that's really helpful to read...thanks, lindsay, that's really helpful to read! wishing you the best of luck!Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934734052367802262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-24527517258319381562015-08-26T10:50:27.686-04:002015-08-26T10:50:27.686-04:00Good luck, Mo!Good luck, Mo!gwinnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840990153103781272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-87495140718057765262015-08-26T10:31:10.298-04:002015-08-26T10:31:10.298-04:00Forgot to add - mine were both Day 6 embryos!Forgot to add - mine were both Day 6 embryos!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-72253841936780900402015-08-26T10:29:23.120-04:002015-08-26T10:29:23.120-04:00My twins were the result of a frozen cycle. We tra...My twins were the result of a frozen cycle. We transferred two and they both took - 4BB and 5 BB. Two healthy, full-term babies. Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-14359028640720842582015-08-26T09:22:21.203-04:002015-08-26T09:22:21.203-04:00Fingers and toes crossed!Fingers and toes crossed!Janenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-60045267542178697012015-08-26T07:09:24.718-04:002015-08-26T07:09:24.718-04:00Hi Mo, just going to run down all our stats for yo...Hi Mo, just going to run down all our stats for you:<br /><br />Morula (fresh, day 5) = BABY<br />Grade 1 Blast (fresh, day 5, no letter grades given at that stage) = BABY<br />3CC (frozen, day 6) = didn't survive thaw<br />3BC (frozen, day 6) = didn't survive thaw<br />4CB (fresh, day 5, hatching) = 2 BABIES (best guess this was our identical twins)<br /><br />So yes, quality-wise I have babies from 3 that were worse than the ones you're asking about, however they were fresh and day 5. <br /><br />It's so hard to know what will happen, but I get why you're choosing to do 3!quadmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17254199098599230245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-51400829740382527142015-08-26T05:44:42.924-04:002015-08-26T05:44:42.924-04:00My little 3BC is currently gestating in my gestati...My little 3BC is currently gestating in my gestational surrogate's uterus! Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-80832715170983192032015-08-25T23:31:11.115-04:002015-08-25T23:31:11.115-04:00hi mo- i also have a day 7 blast on ice and school...hi mo- i also have a day 7 blast on ice and schoolie told me that he wouldn't rule it out- but you are right- its less likely- hopefully you have seen some of the japanese literature that shows that there can be a 23% chance of implantation with day 7 blasts? that is better than 0/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-33604285179992536932015-08-25T23:01:07.712-04:002015-08-25T23:01:07.712-04:00I have no clue what ours were graded, just that IV...I have no clue what ours were graded, just that IVF 1, 2, 3 were 3 day transfers and then IVF 4, 5/FET 1 were all 5 day blasts. I should have asked. Either way, we ended up with 1 from IVF 1, 1 from IVF 5 and 1 from FET 1, so it must have been OK! Sending lots of prayers your way!Kahlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062732728748588097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-50756763486979327382015-08-25T23:00:52.266-04:002015-08-25T23:00:52.266-04:00I have high hopes for your day 6 3BB! And you neve...I have high hopes for your day 6 3BB! And you never know for the other two!!! My blast transferred most recently was a 3BB and so far so good! One of my twins is a 4BB. When I found out about the grades of my embryos I obsessed over their grades none of mine were perfect AAs. I've seen lots of successes with BB CCS normal embryos!<br /><br />Excited for you!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01569878713866961609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5160381109996491098.post-67144950680602323242015-08-25T22:07:39.546-04:002015-08-25T22:07:39.546-04:00No experience with blasts but I will keep my finge...No experience with blasts but I will keep my fingers crossed for you. 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